North Dakota is home to some of the richest agriculture land in the world, with over 40 million acres dedicated to farming. Roger Gussiaas joins Joy Beckerman to talk about the health benefits of oilseed and how Healthy OilSeeds has been exporting North Dakota's flax, hemp, and borage to a wide variety of companies all over the world. Produced by PodCONX https://podconx.com/guests/roger-gussiaas
North Dakota is home to some of the richest agriculture land in the world, with over 40 million acres dedicated to farming. Roger Gussiaas joins Joy Beckerman to talk about the health benefits of oilseed and how Healthy OilSeeds has been exporting North Dakota's flax, hemp, and borage to a wide variety of companies all over the world.
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Announcer: [00:00:09] Welcome to another episode of Hemp Barons. On today's show, Joy gets to talk about one of her favorite Hemp coal products, hemp seed and hemp oil. Her guest has been producing hemp oil for nearly two decades. Let's join Joy's conversation with Roger gushes from healthy oil seed.
Joy Beckerman: [00:00:36] Well, welcome, Roger, thank you so much for being with us on Hemp Barons today.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:00:40] Well, thank you so much for the invitation. I really appreciate it. And I appreciate everything you've done, sir, for Hemp promoting it and educating all of us. Thank you so much. Thanks for being such a your involved from in the past and also the president. And I'm sure in the future, too. Thank you so much.
Joy Beckerman: [00:00:58] Oh, thank you. Back Roger and the largest. Thank you. Because you're involved in Hemp Green. As you know, because we've known each other for a little bit of time now, brother, and worked with each other a little bit. I love me. Some Hemp extract. I think CBD is amazing. And also, I've been involved in this plant for 30 years because of the oil seed and fiber aspects of the plant with my two favorite products being Hemp create and hold the Hemp seeds as we often talk about on the show.
Joy Beckerman: [00:01:29] Hemp seed is the densest form of nutrition that we can come up with in the seed is the highest digestible form of protein in the entire planet animal kingdom. The more digestible protein than soy chicken beef away. And why is that? It has new tricks and inhibitors. Of course, Kristyn inhibitors are these properties that exist in food and particularly in chicken, beef, soy and way that prevent our bodies from being able to absorb protein. In addition to the fact that it has a food supply or a full count of amino acids, just a little lacking in lysine, which we can get in other parts of the food supply fairly easily. But and the fact that there's 60 percent at least atest in protein, generally speaking in Hemp grain genetics suggests the most valuable Dhoruba form of protein that we can get all in a gluten free vegetarian, fast growing form. It's amazing. And then, of course, that cold pressed oil and as well as the seeds that have that perfect ratio of omega 3s to 6, those essential fatty acids. And why are they essential? Because we need to have them for our body and brain functioning. And we don't produce them in our own body. We have to get them from our food supply. And so, Roger, Healthy Oilseeds, which is your company, of course, has been involved in grain and grain processing for quite some time. You'll correct me if I'm wrong here.
Joy Beckerman: [00:02:55] I think that's 2002 based in North Dakota and dealing with, of course, blacks as well as borage, another medicinal plants and now Hemp. What brought you into Hemp, Roger? And then tell us, please, about the origins of healthy oil.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:03:13] Okay. Joyce Well, we've got to restart with oilseeds. We started this business in 2002. You're absolutely right. And we we were working at I just thought there's opportunity in exporting some different oil seeds and also getting involved with some of the processing. And at that time, we really couldn't do much with Hemp in Canada that they could, but we could not in in the states here and in America.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:03:37] And in 2016, I'd been involved with the small Obama lobbying in our state, trying to get it get to be able to plant the crop and also to process the crop in North Dakota. But I wasn't nearly as involved as what you were. But at your 2016, we were able to process Hemp grow hemp in North Dakota.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:04:00] And there is a process. That's one of the first to grow. We've got to grow fifteen acres as five farmers. Pictograph.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:04:05] Fifteen acres each. Regrew that. It went really well. I grew two different varieties. And then since then, I mean and I bought up all the Hemp in the state that year, processed it had a little bit of problem with marketing, crossing state borders, things like that. But it worked out quite well. Now we process out for the last couple of years. We process 24 hours a day, seven days a week called pressing oil. And we do put pressure in the Hemp seed for oil and for protein. And we also do milling and sifting.
Joy Beckerman: [00:04:36] That's kind of where we got started milling, of course, being and when we talk about the Hemp and specifically we're talking about protein powders, are we not?
Roger Gussiaas: [00:04:45] You're right. Yeah, absolutely right. When you're doing this this cold press expelling, you're getting two products, you're getting the oil and you're getting Hemp seed cake or Hemp seed meal. And then that's that's larger pieces. And we want to break it into smaller pieces so they'll dissolve easier and just easier to work with depending on what kind of products being used. But but milling to make the particles smaller.
Joy Beckerman: [00:05:07] Indeed. And folks often think. And I used to think, you know, even as recently as I think seven years ago, that Hemp protein powder came from, you just help those held seeds and you crushed them up and it made a powder. Well, no, in fact, that would make a butter, not a powder. That is that it's truly. Yeah. That that seed cake, which is the cold product. And I love that. We don't even I don't like to use the word. Products at all. As concerns Hemp because there is no biproduct in Hemp, there are only code products. I love it that you've taken it a step further and said we get two products. When we when we press that seed, we get that incredibly rich, essential fatty acid and omega rich, cold pressed oil, so nutritious and in fact so nutritious that we don't cook with it, do we, Roger? We don't like it to go above one hundred and twenty four degrees Fahrenheit if we can avoid that is not the case.
[00:06:03] That's right. Yes, it is a little bit unstable oil. Any any oils that are high and higher, omega 3.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:06:10] This doesn't work well to to to go above, like you mentioned, 124 degrees. It's it it's so I mean, that's the little bit of a dramatic color, a problem. But that's one of the traits of an oil seeds that are that are high in omega 3s.
Joy Beckerman: [00:06:30] I don't think it's a problem or a challenge at all. I think there are oils that are best for cooking and there are oils that are best raw and Hemp is one of them. And that's all. It's just as simple as that, right? Indeed.
Joy Beckerman: [00:06:42] And then you get that beautiful rich oil. But what comes out the other side of the press and I know, of course, because I'm co-founder and senior advisor to Colorado Hemp works and these presses are going as they are at healthy oil seeds.
Joy Beckerman: [00:06:57] Boy, seven days a week. Can you get this valuable, nutrient dense, protein dense beefcake out the other side? And that is what we can then mill into the different protein powders and the different sizes of mesh for lack of a or assisting for lack of a more descriptive term so that we would get with the thinnest or the smallest mesh, we would get the finest and highest content of protein powder. And then as the mesh or sifters become larger inside, we would get more and more of the holes, which are the shell of the Hemp seed, which of course have their own incredible nutritious properties. Everything from very valuable dietary fiber to folic acid and other minerals and protein powders become from a more green color into a more ground color as the holes make their way through those those largest mass meshes. And are you doing any toasting over there by any chance, or is everything that Healthy Oilseeds is doing with Hemp Raw right now?
Roger Gussiaas: [00:08:02] We're doing some toasting, roasting or whatever. I guess I've heard it both ways and we do some of that. Yeah, definitely. And we've also done a little bit of toasting the Hemp seeds just to get it a little different taste to the oil. Some times we tried that a little bit. And just giving a trusted Hemp seed oil. We've tried many different things.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:08:21] We want to continue to do that. But that seems like a lot of people, though, prefer it raw. There's not so much demand in the toasting, toasting of the product and just a little bit more demand for the for the right products. It seems like. But we do do it. It's so we're going to order.
Joy Beckerman: [00:08:38] Indeed. So a custom order, so to speak, it can be done. And I think the toasting or the roasting, as you say, I who I love the I love using the word roast. I hope you don't mind my quote unquote, borrow that term from you. I think I might prefer roasting.
Joy Beckerman: [00:08:53] The issue is the issue being the same thing with the oil. And that is if you're looking for really taking advantage of all the nutrition, that's the Hemp, the true superfood that needs a super k 'cause you go for the ra y y roasted it all when you know that that is going to I hate to use the word damage or reduce the true nutritional profile of the feed itself. Are you seeing as we certainly are. Are you seeing a large demand for USDA certified organic Hemp feed over conventional?
Joy Beckerman: [00:09:31] Yes, we are seeing a slight amount. It seems like it's a more growing demand for the organic product because people want to eat something healthy and they a lot of most people are requesting organics. So we are getting a larger and larger growing demand for organic over conventional. Yes, but most of the conventional product is raised. It might have been raised in a field that had pesticides or fertilizers put in the past. But but it it cannot legally. There are no pesticides labeled. So there won't be any pesticides put on it. But there yeah, there's a chance that fertilizer could be applied. They're growing quite similar. But but there is more demand for organic. You're absolutely right.
Joy Beckerman: [00:10:12] Phil Mudd. So and in fact, my understanding is that the EPA, some maybe six or nine months ago, maybe closer to six time is going so fast. Roger that.
Joy Beckerman: [00:10:22] It is really messing with my ability to to orient myself these days, because in Hemp years, I mean, one Hemp year is like 10, 10 regular years, like dog years. But that the EPA that the. Good. Within the last six or nine months, approve 10 pesticides for Hemp. Now, they're not only next year, they did. Indeed, in a matter of fact, after the show, I'm going to just shoot that with just so you have the link for for your reference. Absolutely no. Having said that, if we're using regenerative agricultural practices, there are many folks who can grow Hemp even with what some folks might consider to be more pristine or organic or regenerative practices than even USDA certified organic requires for that certification. But whether whether here or there, the bottom line is the market in general. Consumers want to see that symbol. They want to see that feel. And there is a demand for it. Having said that, there's lots of conventional Hemp throughout North America that folks would not need to concern themselves with just because it does not have that seal. But we certainly understand the market value and the consumer need or desire for that seal.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:11:38] Yes.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:11:40] Yes, we do pesticide testing on all of our products along with lots of other types of testing, including microbial things like that. But as far as pesticide testing, we've test for that. Even if there isn't even on organic products, we want to make sure that all of all of our products go out there, clean products, good, healthy. And you still feel so good about feeding them to your child, children, your your mother and father and dogs, pets, whatever. Yes.
Joy Beckerman: [00:12:08] I don't doubt it for a moment whether you've been involved in this industry for ingesting grains for it since 2002 at minimum. So theguy m.p.'s are nothing new to healthy oilseeds, which we love. But as a matter of fact, as you well know, many folks are getting into the Hemp industry because they're inspired and we love that. And it's also important that folks make changes in their lives and move from one career to another and find their purpose and do work that they are finding fulfilling and inspiring. And also, in particular, when it comes to human or animal ingestion, if you have no experience at all in manufacturing products, whether they're dietary supplements, drugs, foods or even ingested veal, the skin. Please familiarize yourself folks with m.p.'s for manufacturing and the legal requirements for quality insurance and safety. And that's why folks like you are such and healthy oilseeds are such an asset to the growing economy and to the folks who are by the dozens and hundreds all the time. In fact, we know that technology always saying that there's going to be a 24 percent compound annual growth rate in Hemp grain between now and 2022 because of gluten intolerance, increased celiac and because of a need in the search for vegetarian and begin sources of protein.
Joy Beckerman: [00:13:34] So it's just so wonderful to have folks like you who are who have added Hemp like farmers. We want existing experienced farmers to add Hemp into their rotation and we want to see existing experience the there sort of the favorite right now. So we don't do anything to jeopardize these emerging industries with putting out a product or that is unsafe or not quality assured. You've taken on Hemp, you've added to your rotation, as it were. And I want to speak about the flaks and vauge products that you also make. But before we do that, of course, you are a North Dakota company and you've had the benefit in North Dakota of having Roger Johnson there for all of these years, the president of the National Farmers Union, but also a very early supporter and advocate for Hemp and the legalization of hemp as an agricultural commodity. Have you had any interactions throughout your journey in North Dakota or Hemp and journey with Roger Johnson or the National Farmers Union?
Roger Gussiaas: [00:14:39] I have spent a few years. We've we've been involved. I do know him and I mean fairly well. And I guess he I mean, he he knows me probably a little bit. Not so much. He meets a lot of people. I've met a wonderful person. I was involved in lobbying him and talking to him, trying to to encourage him to to to promote Hemp and Hemp growing in the state of North Dakota. Get it legal. But he was he was always fought. It just didn't take any lobbying to convince him. He was always, always, always wanted to see farmers grow. It also traveled overseas with him a little bit on some trade missions. We just export in our business, too, mostly, and some of the other oil seeds. We've done business now in 22 countries and forty nine states. And as far as other countries. We're getting more and more involved in exporting. We been export it to about five different. Now, Hemp products and I felt really good about that and introducing them to such a good and healthy product.
Joy Beckerman: [00:15:42] So fantastic, just great, great work. I did not really. I should have assumed, in fact, and I'm surprised that I didn't. That you've been exporting to other countries, but five additional countries. Boy, are you a huge part of building this supply chain. Building new awareness. And again, building the Hemp economy. We need folks to vote with their dollars to really show the demand for these products. And when folks are doing and putting out high quality, safe, fantastic products like healthy oilseeds and going out there and educating and networking, that's really chopping the wood and carrying the water for advancing and delivering on the promise of this most versatile and valuable crop. Let's talk for a few minutes about some of the other botanicals or grains and fiber plants, as it were, that you also process at healthy oil seeds. And that's flax and borage. Could you tell us a little bit about those products and those crops?
Roger Gussiaas: [00:16:42] Well, we first get started. Both of those crops, Flax and Borg's and the first crops we work with, their first oil seeds we work with. And we had some demander had a chance to do too involved in exporting and and then processing both of those two a little bit, producing some oils, cake or protein from both of them. And it's worked out well for us. But it just. And flax is still quite a bit of demand for origin isn't quite as much of demand. We've done a little bit with cosmetics, with Enbridge. We've also done some cosmetics work with Hemp in cosmetics being used in cosmetics. And I think that there's gonna be more and more demand for that, too. I mean, like you talk about what is it like twenty five thousand different uses for Hemp? And I think there's probably. It just seems like there's something every day PEPs or coalgate just added it to their toothpaste.
Joy Beckerman: [00:17:34] And, you know, that's Hemp oil. I had no idea. Roger, you are filling me in on a pretty hot new sip.
Joy Beckerman: [00:17:42] I had no idea. I'm going to be googleing at the second. We're finished with this interview. coalgate has added hemp seed oil to their formulation.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:17:49] Yes, that's right. That one of the one of the toothpaste has said it's hard to get. It's hard to find because it's selling out so fast, growing, selling so well. But it is one of the first made I mean, one one real major company that got into using Hemp seed oil, which is a big plus for us, a major plus.
Joy Beckerman: [00:18:06] And I wanted to say that between the cosmetics and the industrial sealants, encoding those uses, we don't want to use Hemp need for biodiesel. We would love to use, you know, the methyl or ethanol that can nothing in ethanol that can come from some seperating or fractionalized, the sugars and cellulose and how many cellulose and linens at the plant, but not for fuel. But I think we're going to see lots of demand for these cosmetics and industrial products as well as time goes on and employees continue on with board vauge and Flaxen and however else I've managed to interrupt you, sir.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:18:45] Thank you, Joy. And yet we've been flaxen and borage with as many, many users.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:18:51] And we're finding more and more things that that could be used for all sorts. Far us. We do also use flaks or as a as a fiber.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:18:59] A little bit like like Hemp.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:19:03] We sell some flax straw for that reason. And Hemp Hemp, this is we're starting to sell some of that to for some of the fiber for it for many different uses. And as far as borage Weekly where we got into that, there's some use. It's a high sorcerous called a type of omega 6 Gemmill in the lake acid and we sell some for that reason. And then also we sell some of the borage for users.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:19:33] So people that have horsies like to just to include that in the rational erst as a supplement.
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Joy Beckerman: [00:20:27] That is of course that that long chain polyunsaturated essential fatty acid which is very difficult to come by. Realized that that borage was a source of of GMH. That's fascinating. And what is really fascinated me about your answer here is you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like we're not just processing grain and healthy oil seeds, processing the fiber as well. So are you also processing the scene, processing the stock of the flax plant in addition to the seed and the stock of the Hemp plant in addition to the seed, Roger?
Roger Gussiaas: [00:21:02] No, we are not. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't make it to confuse your writing. I'm sorry I misread you.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:21:08] We are just selling some of the fibers or as some some companies that want the fiber. But we aren't processing. I'd love to be in it, though. I think fiber side of of Hemp is is as promising as the food or maybe even as promising as that cannabinoid sites. I I I think I'm really excited about fiber, but we're not really in it right now yet.
Joy Beckerman: [00:21:31] But we'd like to someday. Got it. Of course we're always talking about Hemp because it's so versatile. You know, we could add a line at a line at a line meeting. Adding another another aspect of the processing process to the existing facility. Right. And I. One of my biggest heroes in Hemp is Albert. Dun Dun Agro in Holland. Just absolutely adore him. He's created the Hemp bow. He was a great resource and still a major resource, obviously. But we don't have to necessarily import from Holland anymore. Thank God I heard. Or that in a woody coeur inner woody core of the Hemp plant process with a specific geometric particle range and other spec. So that it is a consistent building material for Hemp Creek, which is that construction infill. And then he added a line. He added the ability then to take that vast fiber, the outer bark of the Hemp stock and process that into non-royal. The Nats were growing nassan insulation and then over time he added a line and made this beautiful Hedbo combine so that it went in take the top of these long fiber plants and takes the flowering tops and leaves from the top, which only have about 3 to 4 percent CBD.
Joy Beckerman: [00:22:47] Not like these marijuana. looking or individually cared for high extract Hemp plants here in the United States that have much more resin and much more CBD content but are only being grown for their extract, whereas Albert Dun is is growing for that valuable stock as well as that 3 to 4 percent flowering tops and needs at the top of the plant.
Joy Beckerman: [00:23:10] And then he extracts those and has a little CBD product line that helps move the company along for both pets and humans. So we see this ability to constantly be adding a line. And I still hope that your vision eventually comes true for healthy oilseeds. You are certainly perfectly situated for that, especially in the great state of North Dakota. And in fact, maybe another way that I could ask the question, which is what's coming up, is how on earth are you getting your hands on the fiber when you're processing grain? Because, of course, for Colorado, Hemp works, we're purchasing the grain cleaned hopefully to our specs so we don't have to re clean it and then we process it. Whereas Healthy Seeds is a three generation farm. Farming is really in your blood. Are you getting the fiber aspects of this from the crops that you're growing yourself or some other source?
Roger Gussiaas: [00:24:05] Well, we're not farming anymore. I farm for 38 years. I farmed for a long time and I lost a son a few years ago. And he was very involved along with this business or oil seed business also or Hemp business. And all our farming is very involved with it. And I just decided I couldn't continue doing both. Both. So I rent their farmland out and I grew Hemp and 2016. That's my last year farming group. We are a little larger farm, about 5000 acres or over 5000 acres and I decide to get out of farming. I just couldn't handle both businesses. So we rent our farmland out and we are running this oilseed plant and it just it's it's it's very busy the way it is.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:24:47] I just so I'm not farming anymore.
Joy Beckerman: [00:24:50] God, you know, it's not an easy life. The farmers are the true heroes here. And I'm very excited for a world that has lost that awareness. Not all of us have lost that awareness. And there are a tremendous amount of very dedicated folks from permaculture risk and regenerative agriculturist to, of course, the gigantic existing farming community that is well aware of the fact that it's not for the top 6 inches of soil and rainfall. We would all be dead. It is all on the farmers and they're the ones who take the risks. They're the ones who take the hit. And for folks to think that farming is simple, farmers are meteorologists, farmers are I-T Department. Farmers are agronomists.
Joy Beckerman: [00:25:35] Farmers are some of the most intellectual, dedicated human beings that we have. Contributing to our life on planet Earth. And thank you for the 38 years that you dedicated to serving in that critical role for human survival. And also, you have well earned your retirement from farming, Roger.
Joy Beckerman: [00:25:55] And we're so and we're so glad.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:25:59] Well, thank you, Joy. I appreciate that. That's right. Thirty years, 38 years of farming. I love farming. And I have. After getting out of agriculture production, agriculture are getting out of farming. I have more admiration, respect for farmers than I've ever had. Like you just said that then as far as all of the risk taking involved. And it's. And you have you're out of control. I mean, so many things are out of your control. As far as there's governments that are involved with your your business, there's there's Mother Nature and the amount of rainfall or too much rain, too little rain, not enough sun, too much sun.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:26:35] All these things like this. And though it's it's it's very tough, tough business. And I really have a lot of admiration, respect for you and me both.
Joy Beckerman: [00:26:44] And and when we discuss the fact that in Canada in 1998, as you know, they started to regulate federally, not on a state by state or province by province, although believe me, on some days when I'm dealing with 50 different states of laws, I'm thinking, boy, it would be nice to just have some a few provinces. But but the bottom line is they begin to regulate at the federal level. Hemp as an agricultural commodity, not for extract purposes, but for oil, seed and fiber. With federal crop insurance right out of the gate, the country of Canada began to do that for 1998. And that accessibility for federal crop insurance is what really empowered the country of Canada to become an oh, we're giving them a run for their money. And I want to see North American and global success here. And of course, some of our biggest partners and allies are in Canada, and we never forget that. But also, as I sit here and say that that availability of federal crop insurance in Canada is what empowered Canada to quickly position itself as the global leaders. And again, we're going to get there in Hemp. Food processing ingredients, whereas here in the United States, the 20 20 growing season is actually the first growing season, that because we only just legalized Hemp as an agricultural commodity through the 2018 farm bill, which was enacted on January 1 of 2019 2020. Growing season is the first year that our farmers here will have access to federal crop insurance. And then we further complicate things. And this is not specific to Hemp or Cannabis or anything. It's just the complications of crop insurance in general that those application materials were due on March 16th in order to be able to gain federal crop insurance for the twenty twenty growing season. And part of those applications included the need for an executed contract with your buyer, which have been hard to come by.
Joy Beckerman: [00:28:43] So that's another challenge for farmers. And if folks can really wrap their head around the fact that particularly for extract farming and the grain farmers and there have been many who grew under agricultural pilot programs in in prior years here since the 2014 Farm Bill was signed, which legalized Hemp for agricultural commodity agricultural pilot programs as opposed to commodities, the risks that they took no crop insurance at all. And also for the most part, when we were talking about extract varieties as opposed to grain, which we have beautiful certified pedigree genetics and more, of course, coming online all the time. But when he came to the extra varieties, these farmers on top of every other variable factor that you named, whether rain, government interference, all of those things. They also didn't have crop insurance and they were being sold, many of them magic beans by unscrupulous seed sellers telling them everything that A that a farmer might want to hear if they're growing for extract and things that were not true, such as all of these seeds are feminised. This is 18 percent CBB, zero percent THC. All of those things. And then causing the farmer tremendous labor, whether they be pulling males or recognizing that instead of for phenotypes, they had 17 phenotypes and instead of 18 percent CVD, it was more like six. And instead of zero percent THC, God forbid it was more like 0.3 percent. It was more like 1 and 2 percent, which rendered the crop entirely non-compliant and needing to be destroyed. So it is just amazing what farmers, especially being the real heroes here of. This emerging Hemp crop, because without them putting the seeds in the ground. Roger, as you know, we've got nothing. We've got no hands to work with if it doesn't get planted.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:30:41] That's right. Yes, that's right. And there was a lot of misleading sales people try and get upon. I'll see that saying that had all these good characteristics in it. And it and they weren't there and it wasn't there. And we did plant some CBD ourself, myself and I. My wife is from Kazakhstan, Joy. And my we have I have two partners I work with from Kazakhstan and we did a little bit of CBD Hemp Cannabis I Hemp and we had really good results. We had we started them in the greenhouse sleep's. We're just doing as an educational and for educational mainly. But we are doing some marketing. The also learning from that we planted two acres and we ended up with between 13 to just over 20 percent CBD content and the THC level was just barely got by, but it did get high and we had very good, very good products where we're selling a little bit in the smokable market, but we're working with the government in Kazakhstan. And and maybe trying to develop a program there, too, and see if we can make something over there to make something that work.
Joy Beckerman: [00:31:54] I love hearing that. And I'm so glad that you had success. And like any smart farmer, you did two acres, not 100.
Joy Beckerman: [00:32:00] Good job. That's true.
Joy Beckerman: [00:32:03] Boy, I sure hope if there's anything I can ever do to help you as you work with these other countries and with anything, any of your advocacy and activist efforts. Roger that. You'll never hesitate to reach out to me.
Joy Beckerman: [00:32:16] It's just a a pleasure to be able to work on anything with you. And I'm just so thrilled to hear of healthy oilseeds success and getting into its international reach and its export reach. This is so fantastic. As we close up here. Anything on the horizon, whether for healthy whale seeds specifically or for the Hemp Foods market in general, that you would want to share with our listeners?
Roger Gussiaas: [00:32:44] Well, we'd like to get into a lot more exporting. I mean, we've exported. And when I talk about exporting, we're not exporting like the a five gallon pail or a 55 gallon barrel or something. But we're filling up full containers full of products. We'd like to get it to do a lot more exporting. And there's a lot of countries where we're we're working with that and trying to make something like that work. We're working with potentially in the near future exporting its Brazil into South Korea, doing some business in Japan. What else? At least a couple more countries or to where we want to get into more exporting. And that's just to find more markets. And to I and I, it's it's exciting, though. The markets in America, very exciting. It's one thing I really like about our customers is that most of them asked were American grown product. And I'm really happy to hear that. And I don't have any problem with our Canadian neighbors, Canadian friends. But I it's really nice to hear that they're asking for American grown or at least North American grown products.
Joy Beckerman: [00:33:50] Indeed. And after all of these years of prohibition, people want to take advantage of our freedom of growing this plant, which has finally been liberated and has reclaimed its Presleys, its place in the broad light of day with all of America's other agricultural commodities.
Joy Beckerman: [00:34:07] And yes, people are getting real satisfaction from that. And it's really wonderful. Well, boy, all of us at Hemp Barons in from every role that I hail, brother, we are wishing you and healthy oilseeds and your whole family so much success. Very grateful to have you one today. Can't wait to have you back. And listeners, you can go right to our Web site to find all of the links to be able to reach Roger and Roger. Thank you so much for being with us today. Thank you for everything that you do to advance this incredible crap.
Roger Gussiaas: [00:34:42] Joy, thank you so much, too, to thank you for everything you've done. I'm a great admirer of you.
Joy Beckerman: [00:34:47] Thank you, Joy. So equal, brother. It's a pleasure to be. And an honor to be your reflection until we talk again. Healthy, safe and great positive vibration for you and your family.
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